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From: Lynda Schemansky
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:18:08 -0400
Subject: Art - Audience (Not so long anymore...)

At 12:56 PM 9/21/98 -0600, Barry B. Bean wrote:



Then he continues...

>I define audience as another human being who is exposed to
>the art at any point in time, in any context. This does not require
>intent on the part of either the artist or the audience. Someone who
>walks by and hears your music floating out a window or who finds your
>"wall smearings" centuries after you made them completes the process.
>
>The crux of the matter is that I see art (and hence music, a subset
>of art) as an emergent quality that arises from the interaction
>between the artist and the audience. It is this interaction that
>defines art.

No Barry, it is this interaction that defines YOUR art, perhaps.

Allow me to apply your definition to an actual musical situation...not an
uncommon one, music in the home.

Father teaches his son the fiddle in the evening. Dad plays his MUSIC
slowly, the son practices, trying to his scratchings into something that he
feels is also MUSIC.

Son gets sent off to bed. Dad turn the tune a few more times, and then
loops it some more...filling the room with exquisite MUSIC. However
Barry...by your definition, I guess he's playing NON-MUSIC like you assert
I play, right?

But little known to Dad, the son isn't asleep after all! Oops, wait,
scratch that....that wasn't NON-MUSIC, was it Barry?...it was MUSIC after all.

And as the NON-MUSIC, which we have discovered was actually MUSIC after all
continues...the son falls asleep, turning it back into NON-MUSIC.



******Music being defined as REQUIRING and audience is, in a word,
ludicrous.*******



Thought question for you Barry...how drunk can your audience get before
what you're playing on a stage transforms from music to non-music?


Hmmm...while we're developing definitions of what music is and isn't how
about I give it an exclusionary definition, too:

>From this point forward, MUSIC requires a genuine melody! (Sorry chord and
base players...you just go somewhere else and enjoy playing your NON
MUSIC.) Riff players...contact me off list, and I'll give you my
address...for $5/riff, I will give it a listen and determine if it meets
the melodic requirements. Pat...Micro tonal navel gazing? Sorry...NON
MUSIC for you (but send $10 and I'll re-evaluate my position on this.)


Guess I better go crack a window open so I can consider this stuff coming
out of my harmonic to be MUSIC.

LGS