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From: Will Vogtman
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:58:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Bluemix Scale? half dim

You may want to consult some theory majors at, say, Berkley or the
equivalent. I had one theory course years ago. I remeber learning two
half diminished scales whose steps went

I. whwhwhw (or)
II. hwhwhwh

These were supposed to be played selectively over dominant 7 and
diminished chords.

I'm a math teacher by profession, so that's all I really know. Your
Bluemix pattern just rang a recall bell in my head and I thought I'd
share.


- --- WVE~ol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 7/8/99 7:04:44 AM Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> myqui~ccesscomm.net writes:
>
> > C D Eb E F Gb G A Bb C ?
> > That's 1, 2, b3, 3, 4, b5, 5, 6, b7, 8
>
> > If there's no name for it, any reason I shouldn't
> call it
> > the "Bluemix" scale (combination of Blues and
> Mix-olydian
> > mode)?
>
> None that I can think of!
>
> I know that music "rules" are made to be broken,
> but..... A scale is not
> just a collection of notes. The stepwise sequences
> in the music most often
> follow the scale. When they are not stepwise they
> usually outline a chord.
> The interval thirds of most scales make pleasant
> chords. Do you use your
> "Bluemix scale" this way?
>
> All of the historic modes use seven steps of the
> wwhwwwhwwhwwwhwwhwwwh....
> sequence having different names depending on the
> starting point.
>
> The harmonic minor is whwwh(w+h)h. The melodic
> minor is the natural minor
> (whwwwwh) ascending and (wwhwwhw) descending.
>
> The thing that these above conventional scales have
> in common is no halfsteps
> in sequence, much less 5! (The 7-note gypsy scale
> is a rare exception,
> having two halftones in sequence.)
>
> The other posts keep adding notes and new names.
> Add just 3 notes (C#, G#,
> and B)....then you have "The Chromatic
> Scale"...hhhhhhhhhhhh...having all
> possible notes. Nine notes and 5 halftones in
> sequence make the Bluemix scale
> a rare one indeed!
>
> Does every possible combination of half and whole
> steps that add up to an
> octave deserve to be named as a scale? Are the
> rules, "seven notes" and "no
> halfsteps in sequence" useful in devising scales?
> Did western musicians
> always know the "rules", or is it just a recent
> observation about the scales
> that have survived in common usage...presumably
> because they have more of
> some sort of subjective listener appeal? Can we
> discover things about music
> that all humans find innately appealing, or do we
> just like what we have
> been trained to like? Is there any reason to study
> music theory? Can a
> composer still be creative within the confines of
> Western Tonal Music?
>
> Sorry...I'm spinning out of control here.
>
> Vern
>
>

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