I've been practicing throat vibrato for three years. I'm no %~ closer now than I was 18 months ago. I remember Doug Tate telling me, "slow the pulses down, get a slow wave first." Well, I got a slow wave. I've had it for a long ~& time. When I speed it up it turns into a pulse again. I've given up on the whole %~ thing. My question is....is there a good player out there who plays without throat vibrato? Please don't suggest I try a vibrato from the diaphragm. I'm old....I don't have the %~ time.....They're closing the casket now......BLAH!!!........Kenny