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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Winslow Yerxa
Subject: Bagipes - Return of the Undead

Jimbeau writes:

>But cross harp is really using 2nd position to
>play a blues scale that includes a flatted third.

That's a new one on me. As far as I understand, cross
harp and 2nd position are the same thing, with no
special qualifiers when we speak of "cross."

>Hence, I stand by my original assertion that
>bagpipes can't be used to play in cross
>position, at least not to play blues!

Your original assertion was:

>They can only play in that key.

Which is what I rebutted. You went on to supply what
appeared to be an example, not a specific restriction:

>There's no such thing as playing cross position with
>highland pipes.

As to the blues part, I guess you've never heard of
Rufus Harley, the jazz bagpiper (he's for real).

>Gunga Din isn't a British movie -- it was made by
>Americans "romanticizing" about the British Empire.
>It was directed by George Stevens, made by RKO, and
>starred Cary Grant and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. -- all
>Yanks!

Except for Cary Grant, who was an Englishman - how
else do you explain that weird accent? The story, of
course, came from Rudyard Kipling, the Englishman's
Englishman, and the greatest propagandist the British
Empire ever had.

>Oh yeah, as a military tactic, it's generally not a
>great idea to alert your enemy from miles away that
>you're coming to attack them. About as brilliant
>an idea as wearing, say, bright red uniforms in the
>desert!

Well, it seems to have worked! Maybe the enemy was too
busy laughing, or just shaking their heads in
disbelief, to get ready to deal with what was coming -
sort of like the lethal joke used in WWI in the Monty
Python sketch.

Of the uillean pipes, Jimbeau says:

>I never said it had anything to do with drones. Quite
>the contrary, I said that BECAUSE it doesn't have
>drones, that it can be played chromatically.

Oh dear. Take a deep breath, read that sentence again,
and look for the contradiction.
The uillean pipe DOES have drones (7 of them) AND it
can still be played chromatically. The chanter - the
melody pipe - is built with a chromatic scale. The
drones have nothing to do with this fact. You could
also have a diatonic pipe with no drones.

>Jeez, when you think about it, British bagpipe music
>has inspired more people to kill more people and blow
>more stuff up than RAP ever did!!

Ah, but it was *government *sanctioned. Makes all the
difference, old boy.

>Thanks again Winslow for the bloody dissertation on
>BAGPIPES!

Why, you're too kind. It was nothing. Any time, any
time.

Winslow

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